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If you’re sleeping in the same bed as someone, you’re gonna get to know them quite well

They only had one guest room, so that was our room. I have very fond memories, because we’d be chatting. We’d be talking about music. We brought a guitar, so we were always playing.

I had a dream about my mother, who had died when I was probably about 10. I was a bit shocked… because here I was in the same room with this woman I love, and she said to me ‘don’t worry, it’s gonna be okay.’ She said, ‘Just let it be,’ and I woke up. It’s really magical.

What an amazing song. Music and magic are five letters and two letters different.

I’ve been to some parties where it’s mainly club music and a bunch of young people… and then suddenly they’ll put on ‘Twist & Shout,’ but it works. It’s a good dance song.

the connection are we live hi good evening good afternoon good morning

0:07

7 secondswherever you are and um how you doing

0:16

16 secondshow are you everybody’s coming in i can see all the regular crew

0:25

25 secondseverybody’s there happy birthday thanks leon hi everybody um i just want to say uh before

0:34

34 secondsi think paul’s at the moment yes paul is chatting to saint vincent at the moment but um before we pull him in

0:42

42 secondsi just wanted to say thank you to all you good people for the birthday messages

0:50

50 secondsthat kind of um that card thing that you’ve all done i haven’t had a time to look at because i’ve had a i’ve had just such a lovely

0:58

58 secondsday i’ve been sport rotten um and um yeah i just wanted to say thank

1:07

1 minute, 7 secondsyou i’m gonna have a look at that card tomorrow but it’s been a you know it’s been just such a great day and honestly i’m so

1:14

1 minute, 14 secondstouched by our little community that we’ve got here um it really

1:22

1 minute, 22 secondsyeah you know it really it really struck me today um because so many of your names are now so familiar

1:30

1 minute, 30 secondsso it feels like we’re all friends right we’ve been doing this for a year

1:38

1 minute, 38 secondswe’ve been doing this for years so thank you um let me just see if paul’s there he might be there i can’t believe i’m actually saying that

1:47

1 minute, 47 secondsit’s kind of bizarre i think he’s running over still we’ll see no worries

1:56

1 minute, 56 secondshow’s your week been well has it been okay it’s been

2:05

2 minutes, 5 secondsit’s been good it’s been it’s been uh it’s cold right it’s the rest of europe cold it’s

2:14

2 minutes, 14 secondsflipping freezing in britain it’s beautiful it’s bright but it’s so cold and

2:20

2 minutes, 20 secondsum we went out for i went out for some food tonight on my birthday that was booked about a month ago i hadn’t been out but we haven’t been out to eat for about six

2:28

2 minutes, 28 secondsmonths and of course you have to sit outside so anyone who’s familiar with uh the great tradition of british

2:36

2 minutes, 36 secondspicnics which is because of our of our income our varied weather picnics as a

2:44

2 minutes, 44 secondschild were often spent in cornwall rug pulled out on the sand or on the cliff top on the grass

2:51

2 minutes, 51 secondsit’s about 10 degrees you’re freezing to death and the sandwiches have passed around and it was very much in that tradition

3:00

3 minutesexcept we had a heater but it was lovely had some food and went to a little place uh

3:06

3 minutes, 6 secondsjust off ladbroke grove and it was great it was really good it was really good but it is bloody flipping

3:13

3 minutes, 13 secondsfreezing um so i’m just gonna see if paul’s there

3:21

3 minutes, 21 secondsah i’m gonna bring him in okay brilliant here we go guys send a request go live in a room

3:29

3 minutes, 29 secondshere we go

3:43

3 minutes, 43 secondshey man hey man yeah thank you how are you doing i’m feeling yeah good great actually i’m in uh

3:51

3 minutes, 51 secondsl.a los angeles which is a little bit warmer than england it is so flipping cold i mean it’s it’s

4:00

4 minutesgreat it’s one of those lovely bright april beautiful sunset we went out tonight we went out tonight had the first

4:07

4 minutes, 7 secondsmeal out we’ve had in like six months yeah and we were sitting outside in that as i was saying just now in that tradition of

4:15

4 minutes, 15 secondsgreat british picnics you know where we all sit outside and it’s cold and we have the sandwiches um but we didn’t have sandwiches we i had some nice vegan meatballs so it was

4:24

4 minutes, 24 secondsyeah it was great whoa i know it’s yes so it’s kind of just uh you know getting that

4:31

4 minutes, 31 secondsgetting to go out and to see people yeah yeah after you know so much lockdown

4:38

4 minutes, 38 secondsit’s uh it’s really nice well it was interesting because it was it was like watching people

4:45

4 minutes, 45 secondsand as you said it’s like you know when you’re going you go in a restaurant or whatever you forget i mean i’ve forgotten about that how much you know you’re having your conversation

4:53

4 minutes, 53 secondsbut you’re also seeing there’s the young couple over there and then you’ve got the gang of girls and then you’ve got the elderly couple and you

5:00

5 minutesyou know you’ve got sort of a mix of life and it’s like you said i haven’t seen that for such a long time no i know it’s great

5:09

5 minutes, 9 secondsit’s bonkers yeah well yeah it’s probably you know hopefully it’s all opening up and uh you know i i’m talking

5:17

5 minutes, 17 secondsfellow musicians now who are sort of saying oh i’m going to be doing uh touring i’m gonna i’m gonna be doing some day

5:25

5 minutes, 25 secondsis that your doggy yeah hey that’s ziggy she’s ziggy’s ziggy’s ziggy’s a rescue she’s half

5:34

5 minutes, 34 secondsspring a half collie she’s completely bonkers love it love it we’ve got a rescue called rose

5:41

5 minutes, 41 secondswhose birthday it was yesterday oh they’re so great they’re great aren’t they rescues but she’s a bit she’s got

5:49

5 minutes, 49 secondsunfortunately she’s a little bit feral and she got a pigeon yesterday and it was it was before we know it it was

5:57

5 minutes, 57 secondsit was all devastation in the back garden so it was you know that’s what happens with animals right that’s what happens yes it’s the law of

6:06

6 minutes, 6 secondsnature yeah suddenly you find a lot of feathers in your garden yeah where a pigeon once was and

6:14

6 minutes, 14 secondswith a big smile on the dog’s face i want to thank you very much yeah

6:23

6 minutes, 23 secondsexactly i want to thank you very much for doing this mix uh on the three imagine album

6:30

6 minutes, 30 secondsuh which you do i don’t if you know that it’s releasing at midnight tonight

6:36

6 minutes, 36 secondsso you’re releasing an album tonight it was listen man it was such an honor

6:43

6 minutes, 43 secondsit was it’s funny because obviously you know the list of artists is is is brilliant isn’t it it’s so great and i was thinking about

6:52

6 minutes, 52 secondsit and i you know you know i’m going to be very unbritish here because you know usually we don’t say these things but i was thinking about it today and i was

7:00

7 minutesthinking like well it’s obviously as artists and musicians we have huge respect obviously for what you what you’ve done and all

7:09

7 minutes, 9 secondsthe music you’ve done because we’ve all grown up with that and you’ve influenced us all but the other thing and this is the unbritish parties i

7:16

7 minutes, 16 secondsthink it’s because we all love you so much i really think i think that’s so true i think like you know i spoke i said this to you the

7:25

7 minutes, 25 secondsother day on the phone like you have obviously done this music which is extraordinary

7:33

7 minutes, 33 secondsbut you the way you’ve conducted your life and the way you are is so cool like you know and i think you you know we just

7:41

7 minutes, 41 secondsi think it’s it’s it’s like it’s really important i’m a real believer it’s taken me about 50 years to get to this point to be able to say but i’m a real believer

7:49

7 minutes, 49 secondssay it when you wait say it when you see you know you you’re so loved and what you’ve done has been extraordinary and the way you’ve done it

7:57

7 minutes, 57 secondsyou know and you’re so approachable and down to earth and all of that so thank you so much hey man yeah

8:05

8 minutes, 5 secondsthat’s very unbritish well you love it yeah but it’s like you said that you know what you said at the

8:14

8 minutes, 14 secondsend of abbey road you the love you put out the love you get and you you sowed all these seeds for us you know you you allowed us

8:21

8 minutes, 21 secondsso we’re at such we come from such an interesting country and we see the duke of edinburgh’s just passed away who was part of that that other britain that we all grew up

8:29

8 minutes, 29 secondswith where we didn’t say that stuff did we really not no uh you know i often say to people when when we were kids

8:38

8 minutes, 38 secondsuh in the band you know when the beatles was first starting there’s no way uh any of us would have

8:46

8 minutes, 46 secondssaid to each other i love you yeah it’s just it just i mean we were all trying to be hard you know trying to be hard liverpool guys hey

8:54

8 minutes, 54 secondsall right man yeah yeah that’s okay yeah all right you know yeah that’s about as far as you got you know yeah

9:01

9 minutes, 1 secondyeah but uh then as time goes on you just realize why not you know it’s maybe maybe it’s cool

9:09

9 minutes, 9 secondsto just say hey you know i love you and uh yeah well well you did it and you kind of you sowed the seeds for all this

9:17

9 minutes, 17 secondsstuff you were part of that generation that you did and you you guys really did it like you were so brave and like to the fore and

9:25

9 minutes, 25 secondsin a way kind of like challenging the whole british way but it’s it’s it’s so true and it is it’s like

9:32

9 minutes, 32 secondsit’s it’s i think it’s really changed like i remember watching tv when i was a kid and we you know we had lots of american tv didn’t we in

9:40

9 minutes, 40 secondsbritain in the 70s yeah and i remember you know there’d be that classic scene where the weather where the child is you know being said

9:48

9 minutes, 48 secondsby the parent i love you darling i love you put you to sleep and like i grew up in a household listen my parents love me but they never said that

9:55

9 minutes, 55 secondsmy dad would be like you get like bloody americans always telling they love one another and you kind of you sort of kind of grew up with that and then and then you go

10:03

10 minutes, 3 secondslike well for me it was we i don’t know if you remember whether that we there was this big summer of love in 89 i don’t know if stella and mary got into

10:11

10 minutes, 11 secondsthat whole acid house thing but it kind of blew the barn doors off it for our generation as well you guys sowed the seeds and then

10:18

10 minutes, 18 secondswe reacted against the 60s and we were like bloody hippies and all that and then the acid house thing came along

10:25

10 minutes, 25 secondsand just reaffirmed that and suddenly you’re my brother you’re my sister i love you i love you and it’s it’s it is it’s so important and

10:33

10 minutes, 33 secondsand i think it is changing the generations now you know yeah it’s it’s true

10:40

10 minutes, 40 secondsyou know in my experience um as you say my my kids i think it was a birthday party for stella

10:49

10 minutes, 49 secondswhen she was i don’t know maybe 21 or something it’s around about that age and she had a lot of her friends down to

10:56

10 minutes, 56 secondsthe farm where we lived we had a big barn and they all decorated and they were rocking away and she’s got really cool dj there

11:05

11 minutes, 5 secondsum oakenfeld

11:08

11 minutes, 8 seconds[Laughter]

11:10

11 minutes, 10 secondsand um they’re all really rocking and they’re coming up to us they’re going ah we really i love you and we’re going

11:18

11 minutes, 18 secondsoh well this is great i mean i think we found out later that extra zoom was involved yeah there’s a little bit of that right

11:26

11 minutes, 26 secondsyeah but hey you know i i i’ll have that over the opposite yeah well it changed i mean it was so

11:34

11 minutes, 34 secondsit was that whole thing it changed in the 80s like we used to go out you know that’s when you know the band that i’m in radiohead formed in 85 and it was

11:42

11 minutes, 42 secondsyou know you’re in a band yeah just kidding well you know what funny enough i was

11:49

11 minutes, 49 secondsi mean no one can ever compare the band that you were in to you know you can never as a band say oh you like the beatles but

11:57

11 minutes, 57 secondswe were similarly we were like school friends and we knew each other when we were very young like 15 14 15 16. yeah and we didn’t we didn’t

12:06

12 minutes, 6 secondsget signed until we and we we had sort of this six year period where we sort of learned our [ __ ] and

12:13

12 minutes, 13 secondswent through different styles and but that was kind of you know and i don’t think there are many bands i think that’s one of the you know

12:21

12 minutes, 21 secondsobvious there aren’t a lot of bands who started when they were kids you know no no and that friendship thing is so important

12:29

12 minutes, 29 secondsi mean i you know someone was saying to me uh looking back on the beatles you know how do you feel

12:36

12 minutes, 36 secondsum as because the beatles period has gone from a to z um and it’s it’s a body of work

12:44

12 minutes, 44 secondsum i’ve turned into a fan yeah because you know i can look at it now and not sort of think oh we

12:52

12 minutes, 52 secondswhat are we going to do here or um so you know i i just love that uh that and

12:59

12 minutes, 59 secondsthe thing i realized is that we were at it a long time or or maybe not a long time so much

13:06

13 minutes, 6 secondsjust millions of hours yeah you know starting in liverpool just playing as a little crappy group we really weren’t very good you know we

13:15

13 minutes, 15 secondsdidn’t know much but then we ended up getting out to hamburg and we got better and so we had this lovely build-up um

13:23

13 minutes, 23 secondswhere we learned millions of songs in hamburg and but most importantly got to really know each other

13:30

13 minutes, 30 secondsyeah you know and i i was remembering yeah when we were kids i used to go hitchhiking with george

13:38

13 minutes, 38 secondsand we’d go down to harlock in wales and you know we’d we’d hang and

13:45

13 minutes, 45 secondsso those kind of things just really bond you to each other you know i also did that with john

13:52

13 minutes, 52 secondsyou know we we hitchhiked and we ended up in paris we were trying to get to spain but

13:58

13 minutes, 58 secondsparis was too cool did you kind of because it’s funny

14:06

14 minutes, 6 secondsbecause what we used to do is like we had very similar go on holiday with colin or tom would come and see me we had all this and what we used to do a

14:14

14 minutes, 14 secondslot was we used to sit around talking like we like you know we do our we came from outside oxfordshire so it wasn’t

14:21

14 minutes, 21 secondsthe urban thing so we were rehearsing all these village halls and invariably we do three hours rehearsal then we’d go to the

14:28

14 minutes, 28 secondsvillage pub for half a pint and uh we used to talk about it are you are you good am i back

14:36

14 minutes, 36 secondsyeah yeah no you just froze you’re good no oh no yeah yeah good we used to talk about like you know we weren’t a very good band

14:45

14 minutes, 45 secondseither we were we were just not very good and but we learned to play together and we’d start and when we and when we do this and if we get a

14:54

14 minutes, 54 secondsrecord deal we’re going to get a van and stuff like and we talk like that and i think you know like you said there’s a lot of hours that goes into kind of

15:02

15 minutes, 2 secondsyeah that that that whole that you’re sort of creating this energy this this whole kind of i mean and you guys did it to the

15:10

15 minutes, 10 secondsyou know yeah well i mean you know like i say you know if you if you’re sleeping in the same bed as someone

15:18

15 minutes, 18 secondsyeah you’re gonna get you’re gonna get to know them quite well you know yeah yeah it’s true and we did we did a lot of that you know we’d go

15:26

15 minutes, 26 secondssomewhere i remember going down we hitchhiked me and john hitchhiked down to my cousin betty’s house um where she was

15:35

15 minutes, 35 secondsliving in near reading and uh they only had one guest room so that was

15:43

15 minutes, 43 secondsour room so we we top and tailed you know that where he was at the top yeah yeah

15:50

15 minutes, 50 secondsyeah he’s very cute i have very fond memories you know because they say you’ll be chatting we’ll be talking about music and

15:57

15 minutes, 57 secondswe brought our guitars so we’re always playing but uh it’s very cute because even though we were

16:05

16 minutes, 5 secondsi don’t know 19 18 19 years old my cousin betty had come in in the evening hello

16:11

16 minutes, 11 secondsthis is iana paul hi hi this is my daughter she’s she’s a massive massive beatles fan she’s got all the vinyls and stuff

16:20

16 minutes, 20 secondswhoa a woman of good taste hi there hi nice to meet you she’s she’s 15 years old she’s probably you know

16:28

16 minutes, 28 secondsi don’t want to do the talking for her but can i say what your favorite song is yeah let it be and it’s really really helped her

16:36

16 minutes, 36 secondsduring this last year with lockdown and everything oh wow that’s nice

16:43

16 minutes, 43 secondsyou know um songwriting is that sometimes you don’t know how

16:50

16 minutes, 50 secondsyou wrote it you don’t know how it arrived and in that case let it be um it arrived after i’d

16:58

16 minutes, 58 secondshad a dream about my mother who had died um

17:05

17 minutes, 5 secondswhen i was it’s probably about 10 years before and she came to me in the dream and she was and i was a bit

17:13

17 minutes, 13 secondsshocked with the whole sort of scene you know it was just a bit i think i was doing a little bit too much of everything and

17:20

17 minutes, 20 secondsyou know but she came to me in the dream which is a beautiful thing because here i was in the same room as this

17:28

17 minutes, 28 secondswoman i loved and she was saying to me don’t worry it’s going to be okay it’s all going to be okay and i felt

17:36

17 minutes, 36 secondsso soothed and she said just let it be and she said that and i woke up i went wow

17:44

17 minutes, 44 secondsthat’s so great you know what a great idea and i said let it be i love that because then that kind of

17:52

17 minutes, 52 secondsspirit transfers itself to other people like you yeah yeah you get the message off it

18:00

18 minutesit’s it’s pretty magical it’s amazing song it’s i love that thing like music and

18:08

18 minutes, 8 secondsmagic five letters and two two two letters different right yeah i didn’t realize that

18:17

18 minutes, 17 secondsyeah music and magic magic yeah yeah exactly don’t think thinking

18:25

18 minutes, 25 secondsyes us yeah when are you coming back to britain are you coming back for any are you getting back here

18:32

18 minutes, 32 secondsfor the for the spring or you out in america for a while yeah no i’m i’m coming back um it’s i think it’s about

18:44

18 minutes, 44 secondsum i’m coming back for the blue bells yeah you know i can’t i can’t be out of britain when the bluebell is gone i was like

18:52

18 minutes, 52 secondslate late april early may i just love that so much so i’ll be back then and uh

19:02

19 minutes, 2 secondsi promise to bring some warm weather with me please do that’d be great

19:11

19 minutes, 11 secondsyeah so you know it’s going to be interesting because you you haven’t heard this album no

19:19

19 minutes, 19 secondsi haven’t it’s really it’s going to be nice for all the various people on the album when you get it and you see

19:26

19 minutes, 26 secondswhat everyone else did and they’ve all done it with a great freedom yeah you know because it’s locked down

19:34

19 minutes, 34 secondsand i and i don’t think anyone said to them you must do this you’ve got to use paul’s drums

19:41

19 minutes, 41 secondswell you know but nobody gave any guidelines they just said well you know have a go

19:47

19 minutes, 47 secondsso people have been very free it’s really nice it’s got it’s got a atmosphere the album

19:54

19 minutes, 54 secondsand they’re like i say they’re dropping it at midnight tonight it’s yeah it’s it’d be it’s really what i loved

20:04

20 minutes, 4 secondsabout the whole the whole brief that you get that you gave it was just like do whatever you want and i think we sent through we because

20:11

20 minutes, 11 secondswe it was really tricky for us to do because of lockdown and i i don’t i didn’t at that stage i’ve actually finished having a home studio

20:19

20 minutes, 19 secondsso i was going into the church with paul lepworth and we had like a we had like a day um and

20:26

20 minutes, 26 secondsi think we we sent something through to you but we’d only your vocals were all on one stem and because we can and and the brief was

20:34

20 minutes, 34 secondsyou came back and said listen don’t be so don’t pay such you know don’t pay homage to my vocals and say

20:42

20 minutes, 42 secondsand we’re like great can we get in there and you know it yeah it’s it’s you know what it’s like you just want to be yeah you just want you just want to be

20:50

20 minutes, 50 secondsable to have a go and and and and not have someone breathing down your neck or whatever or telling you you just you just do it and do what feels right

20:58

20 minutes, 58 secondsin that moment you know yeah yeah well that you you’ll see when you listen to the album that that comes over

21:06

21 minutes, 6 secondsyeah um it’s nice uh the guy from massive attack

21:13

21 minutes, 13 secondsagreed to do something uh and the track that he chose was was my track um

21:21

21 minutes, 21 secondson the out on the album on mccartney three which is like an eight minute thing and i always thought well maybe i’m being a bit indulged

21:29

21 minutes, 29 secondsyou know eight minutes maybe i should cut it down and be a bit more sensible well his is 11 minutes

21:38

21 minutes, 38 secondsyay yay yeah well done robert yes he’s great yeah

21:47

21 minutes, 47 secondshe’s really good yeah and some people just didn’t you know didn’t even use my vocals

21:55

21 minutes, 55 secondsthey just kind of remade a track that was vaguely like the one i’d written yeah i loved

22:02

22 minutes, 2 secondsher i love what beck did and i love what he said about it he put a lovely little note about he said

22:09

22 minutes, 9 secondshe said he had a great evening with you and nancy one night and you were dancing out in l.a and i said when you when he’s when you sent him the

22:18

22 minutes, 18 secondstrack he’s just like right i want to do something that gets paul dancing yeah it’s uh you know it’s one of those

22:28

22 minutes, 28 secondsthings uh nancy and i like to dance kind of so you get to a place you know and there’s some good music

22:35

22 minutes, 35 secondsi mean right about that time that he’s talking about we’d go to uh often after things like the grammys

22:44

22 minutes, 44 secondsthen there’s a little bit of a sort of yeah party or something i remember there was one which daft punk

22:51

22 minutes, 51 secondswere uh hosting and we went down there and that was come on yeah i remember

22:58

22 minutes, 58 secondsi remember you coming to one that we had in l.a back in about 10 years ago oh my gosh i remember that

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23 minutes, 13 seconds[Music]

23:14

23 minutes, 14 secondsuh nigel too yeah and also quest love came and dj’d and did an incredible set and i remember he put

23:20

23 minutes, 20 secondsi think he put on paperback writer it was wicked it did sound good

23:27

23 minutes, 27 secondsit well it’s so interesting because like when you play it’s funny i had similar experience with at party years ago

23:35

23 minutes, 35 secondswhen we used to go to this great party my wife and i called bad to the bone and i walked into this party and it was like a house the ultimate house party

23:43

23 minutes, 43 secondsand they had uh baby love by the supremes really loud through the pa light paperback writer and you suddenly realize oh my god these

23:52

23 minutes, 52 secondsare dance tunes yeah you know if you put them through a pa it suddenly takes because we’ve heard them on our stereos and in our car and they sound amazing

24:01

24 minutes, 1 secondbut suddenly turn up live and you feel the base yeah you know yeah i know yeah i’ve been to

24:09

24 minutes, 9 secondsuh some parties you know where it’s mainly you know club music and stuff uh a bunch of young people sort of dancing and

24:17

24 minutes, 17 secondsstuff and uh then suddenly they put on like twist and shout by the beast that works

24:25

24 minutes, 25 secondsit really works that’s a good dance song yeah it’s amazing and yeah i i totally love i completely this this party used to go

24:34

24 minutes, 34 secondsto is really eclectic and it would do that and it would play you know it would play twist and they would play twist and shout but they play prince they play

24:42

24 minutes, 42 secondssomething really like aphex twin or whatever and it’s so interesting because you realize how much of the music that maybe was from your

24:51

24 minutes, 51 secondschildhood before was actually dance music that’s what people were doing yeah you know yeah exactly yeah but we

24:58

24 minutes, 58 secondswere listening to it on little [ __ ] or something so yeah it didn’t seem but when you get it down the club you hear the big bass

25:07

25 minutes, 7 secondsyeah man will you can i just as a complete music were you like i’ve read that james you know for me

25:15

25 minutes, 15 secondsyour bass players they were great obviously but you you and james jameson for me like the 60s

25:22

25 minutes, 22 secondswas jameson somebody that when you heard were you like from the funk brothers motown we like oak this guy’s like

25:29

25 minutes, 29 secondsoh you’re pretty amazing oh yeah definitely i think till then you know we bass players had stuck to

25:38

25 minutes, 38 secondsquite a sort of background role or is it rather

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25 minutes, 43 seconds[Music]

26:02

26 minutes, 2 secondsis very interesting too it made me think oh wait a minute you know i can i’ve got a role here and it’s not just a background

26:10

26 minutes, 10 secondsrole and it’s so it excited me you know it’s and some of the some of those records around about that

26:18

26 minutes, 18 secondstime when when motown was popping um i mean they’re very busy my base part is very busy

26:26

26 minutes, 26 secondsum but i just done a thing with uh rick rubin you know rick oh yeah yeah um and he’s done it’s a little series

26:36

26 minutes, 36 secondsthey’re putting together actually but he took the records and took out my base you know he had the he had the

26:44

26 minutes, 44 secondsmulti-track he took out my base and you hear the song it’s going to meet yeah it’s quite sedate and then he puts in

26:54

26 minutes, 54 secondsme and ringo’s things yeah whoa listen so

27:01

27 minutes, 1 secondyou can make a big difference on the base and mr jameson as i say was the man who turned me on

27:09

27 minutes, 9 secondswell i read it’s interesting you say that because i read the jeff emerick book that he talks about working with you like working with you on the bass to get

27:18

27 minutes, 18 secondsthat bass sound and he was he said in the book that quite often you know in the middle period you would put the bass on last you and i you might put the

27:26

27 minutes, 26 secondsbass yeah and so i was demoing i did a lot of demoing for from my last record and i’ve never really played bass before because colin

27:35

27 minutes, 35 secondsand radio had such a great bass player but what i did was i demoed without these without the bass uh i put everything and then i did the

27:43

27 minutes, 43 secondsbass last and it was revelatory like how you can change a song right you can completely and if you’re not if

27:50

27 minutes, 50 secondsyou’re not a bass but if you’re a guitarist you think you know you you don’t realize how much the bass actually changes and like you said you

27:58

27 minutes, 58 secondschange and you can you the the the chord that the note that you play underneath it can change the chord make it it’s just yeah yeah yeah i mean you know

28:08

28 minutes, 8 secondswhen you when you’re playing a g chord say for instance you normally play a g for the bass you know you play the root

28:16

28 minutes, 16 secondsbut if you play a d yeah and do it suddenly it holds everything up you’ve got this tension yeah

28:24

28 minutes, 24 secondsi love i mean that’s what i love about music i’m still discovering all that stuff yeah you know i think that’s the thing

28:32

28 minutes, 32 secondsit’s you’re still finding things that that uh intrigue you you know

28:40

28 minutes, 40 secondsthe the difference you can make i’m going to have a piece of gum and here i’m going to pop it in

28:51

28 minutes, 51 secondsi have some water all right i haven’t had my birthday cake yet luna’s made oona’s made me a birthday

28:58

28 minutes, 58 secondscake we haven’t eaten it yet you haven’t well so what now it’s uh nine o’clock for you yeah we’ll we’ll

29:06

29 minutes, 6 secondshave some we’ll have some in a sec gonna watch a movie have a birthday movie and um you know

29:13

29 minutes, 13 secondsmy birthday movies i always i’m a bit like i always i like going back to the same films you know for like my i’m a bit like i love watching new films but for treats

29:22

29 minutes, 22 secondsso i’m feeling interstellar tonight we’re big fans of it you know that film interstellar

29:29

29 minutes, 29 secondsoh yeah love that film you like it like a bit of uh galaxies and a bit of well i like it because

29:36

29 minutes, 36 secondsi like that but i like because at the heart of it it’s about love you know and it’s to me it gets me crying it’s the love of a

29:43

29 minutes, 43 secondsyou know a father and their daughter oh yeah you know that’s beautiful isn’t it yeah

29:52

29 minutes, 52 secondsi love that and you know bringing it back to music that that so reminds me you two remind me of uh i was in a

29:59

29 minutes, 59 secondsconcert once so it’s funny because this conversation come around full circle um i was in a concert once doing let it be

30:08

30 minutes, 8 secondsso i’m up at the piano i’m doing anything i look out in the audience and there was a very tall good-looking

30:15

30 minutes, 15 secondsman um and a girl beside him who’s obviously his daughter and she had some

30:22

30 minutes, 22 secondslong black hair and she’s sort of looking up at him and he’s looking down at her and i’m singing the soundtrack and it was like

30:31

30 minutes, 31 secondsit was quite difficult to like not just hold back you know i love that it’s so lovely it’s

30:39

30 minutes, 39 secondsamazing that you know what it’s so lovely to hear that because you know that there could be a lot of people you

30:47

30 minutes, 47 secondsyou know you could have done the paul mccartney and vegas thing which is thank you very much you know and you know what i mean but

30:55

30 minutes, 55 secondsyou you feel it still and that’s like that’s why we love you because you can tell you still feel it right well i i well thank you i mean i

31:04

31 minutes, 4 secondscertainly do yes there’s no there’s no denying it it’s like it’s just you know we’re so lucky to

31:12

31 minutes, 12 secondsbe able to do this in life there’s so many people who are really good musicians and stuff but it don’t get as lucky as we’ve got

31:20

31 minutes, 20 secondsi mean it’s not all luck a lot of it’s hard work and skill obviously but um it is great it’s a great job

31:28

31 minutes, 28 secondsit’s great isn’t it it’s like i i feel i’ve i felt a bit guilty over the last year sort of feeling a bit down and stuff because

31:36

31 minutes, 36 secondsi’m aware that it’s like our job is like winning the lottery right we’ve you know we’ve got the golden ticket and like you said there’s hard work but

31:43

31 minutes, 43 secondsyou don’t mind doing hard work if it’s something that you love you know the payoff is the best thing oh you know when you’ve struggled with

31:52

31 minutes, 52 secondssomething i’m actually after this i’m actually going to a studio out here uh working with a young producer

32:01

32 minutes, 1 secondand uh i was working i was with him yesterday and it was a bit of a struggle you know i was trying to think of what i wanted to do on the base

32:10

32 minutes, 10 secondsand i was oh god you know i’m on the spot i don’t really know these people too well

32:16

32 minutes, 16 secondsi’ve got to try and be wonderful but it was okay and in the end it was like oh wow that’s good that’s good that’s

32:26

32 minutes, 26 secondsthat payoff is what makes it all worthwhile it’s that i mean i guess what you’re also saying is that what i learned from i you know when you go and play with

32:34

32 minutes, 34 secondsother musicians who are great musicians and i’d only really played with radiohead until about maybe 15 years ago you know i wasn’t in any other bands and

32:42

32 minutes, 42 secondsyou know because it was full-on and then you go and play with other musicians and johnny marr and neil finn and stuff like that and i think one of the one of the great

32:49

32 minutes, 49 secondsthings was i was really nervous before you do that because you think [ __ ]

32:54

32 minutes, 54 secondsyou know i’m am i going to be any good you know how am i going to be yeah and you realize that actually

33:01

33 minutes, 1 seconduncertainty and insecurity is all part of it as well right it’s you know and that’s kind of necessary as

33:09

33 minutes, 9 secondswell that kind of ups your game but it’s also it’s also part of the humility i think it’s so important to have

33:16

33 minutes, 16 secondsyou know that humility with music it’s yeah yeah because you because the moment you don’t you get your ass kicked and that’s

33:23

33 minutes, 23 secondswhat i also love about music that i i always say this i think music is like the biggest [ __ ] detector you know like it can really sniff it out

33:32

33 minutes, 32 secondsand and you get your ass it’s because it is magic it’s it you know there’s obviously stuff that we do but also it comes through us right

33:40

33 minutes, 40 secondswe you know we’ve got these little antennae and if if we’re all you know jack the lad

33:47

33 minutes, 47 secondsthose antennas aren’t working no i know that’s that’s a case of do you do you know who i think i am

33:55

33 minutes, 55 secondsyeah yeah right there’s a few of those people around yeah there are a few things do you know who i am

34:03

34 minutes, 3 secondsbut um did i’ll say every time i go in the studio you know and the other added factor i think is

34:11

34 minutes, 11 secondswhen you’ve had success you’re now worrying that in their eyes the people you’re working with they’re

34:19

34 minutes, 19 secondsgoing to say come on then let’s see this brilliance you’re renowned for you go holy [ __ ] i’m not really

34:26

34 minutes, 26 secondsbrilliant i’m just like you know man i’m so i do you know what that that’s so that’s so warm to my heart paul to hear

34:35

34 minutes, 35 secondsyou say that because it’s true you know you can’t get around if i don’t yeah that’s that that beautiful i

34:43

34 minutes, 43 secondstotally agree with you and i yeah totally almost every time you start a new project with somebody a new producer or something it’s kind of

34:50

34 minutes, 50 secondsand you would yeah i mean you know almost like the bigger the projects that you’ve had in the past the more you know but more pressure yeah more

34:59

EOB: so have you got another album on the go, have you got more music?

Paul McCartney: I’ve just met this guy, Andrew Watt, who’s a new young producer… He’s probably not that new, but I mean, to me, he is. And I just met him the other day, he’s got a great little studio which is in Charlie Chaplin’s old house. So it’s real Hollywood history, you know. And he’s got a fabulous little studio in the bottom, so I was going around maybe to just have a cup of tea with him, and we got start, we got talking and I was talking about something, and I said “you know I don’t have to have a left-handed guitar here, do you?” “yes we do”

So suddenly I’ve got a guitar, we just took it from there and I said “should we put this down” and we’ve ended up doing a track but, again, you know, it’s not me trying to make a new album, it’s just doing a song with this guy who’s fun to work with. It may well be on a next album, but I’m not in a hurry, you know, we’ve got tonight’s album coming out you’re on.

36:18

36 minutes, 18 secondsso cool so it’s you know it’s so funny because like you know like i’m 53 today so i’m still chuffed that

36:27

36 minutes, 27 secondsway to be doing this but i love that thing in life like my ten-year-old boy i was a beatles

36:36

36 minutes, 36 secondsobsessive so it might you know like you have these moments in your life i don’t know if you had it when you met i know when you met elvis or something but

36:43

36 minutes, 43 secondswhen you have these moments when you think about like my child my 10 year old self is going absolutely

36:50

36 minutes, 50 secondsnuts here and it’s great because you have these you have these conversations with people who you know and i i think we’re so lucky because in music

36:59

36 minutes, 59 secondsyou tend to meet your heroes along the way right and and and usually it’s really it’s an incredible it’s a fantastic connection and a

37:08

37 minutes, 8 secondsconversation like we’re having now sometimes it can be a bit weird but but usually it’s great and you just it’s that you know it’s that circle it’s that

37:16

37 minutes, 16 secondsbeautiful circle that happens you know no i have that too like you say we we met elvis and

37:25

37 minutes, 25 secondswell you know since we were kids you know hitchhiking on holiday and stuff and there’d be an eldest record and you

37:33

37 minutes, 33 secondswould just be like god yeah this you know it was just his music was like you didn’t know how they did it you just couldn’t figure out how to make

37:42

37 minutes, 42 secondsthese sounds and how he sang so beautifully and loosely and then you meet him and it’s like oh

37:50

37 minutes, 50 secondsslightly nervous but he was he was great you know oh good

37:57

37 minutes, 57 secondshe was ready yeah it was uh he was very friendly and he was starting to play bass he played space on one or two

38:06

38 minutes, 6 secondstracks elvis tracks um so i could talk to him about the bass yeah so i gave me a you know a

38:13

38 minutes, 13 secondsconversation opener did you because you he so it’s a bit like elvis

38:21

38 minutes, 21 secondsand is like your specialized subject in terms of you that was the music you grew up with like from afar i you know elvis is a generation removed

38:29

38 minutes, 29 secondsfrom me yeah and i love you know i remember the summer of 77 when he died they played his movies on the tv all summer i’m nine

38:37

38 minutes, 37 secondsyears old and i watch them because there’s nothing else on tv right but i watch them and i’m sort of transfixed and then you sort of get into

38:44

38 minutes, 44 secondselvis and you you listen to stuff this and it’s that thing that the stuff that he did right is am i right i’m thinking the stuff

38:52

38 minutes, 52 secondsthat he did before he went into the army had the magic because he had bill black scotty moore he had his brothers around him and then

39:00

39 minutesafter the army it all became a bit showbiz and didn’t quite have the soul would that be with that yeah that’s definitely how we felt

39:08

39 minutes, 8 secondsright you know uh people in those days they go into the army and they say it’ll make a man of you yeah and we

39:16

39 minutes, 16 secondsdidn’t like that idea no it’s like i’m not sure i want to be made a man off no you know but he did but no the stuff

39:24

39 minutes, 24 secondsprior to the army was just so great you know i read i i read quite a bit about him and

39:32

39 minutes, 32 secondssome of the books you you his story it really is just a country boy you know and uh

39:40

39 minutes, 40 secondsand he’s he’s very influenced by the black people who live across the tracks and he’ll go through he would go to those clubs and listen

39:49

39 minutes, 49 secondsto a lot of black music live so it was just so amazing

39:56

39 minutes, 56 secondsyeah anyway there it is it was a joy to meet him you know how we tell him all this how much we loved

40:04

40 minutes, 4 secondsall this stuff now the other crazy thing though was kind of unfortunate because with the beatles coming in it kind of edged him out and that was

40:13

40 minutes, 13 secondsthe last thing we wanted to do yeah you know we never wanted to be you know edging elvis out of the picture but i

40:22

40 minutes, 22 secondshadn’t but he was all right you didn’t get any sense of him being like he he knew that these four guys from liverpool were taking his

40:31

40 minutes, 31 secondstaking his space no it was great and i i prefer to remember it like that because in actual fact later

40:39

40 minutes, 39 secondshe he did get a bit funny um he he went to he he went to visit

40:46

40 minutes, 46 secondsnixon oh yeah it’s sort of documented somewhere but he starts busting us he starts busting us

40:54

40 minutes, 54 secondshe still say yeah those bills are they’re not so good you know they’re taking drugs

41:01

41 minutes, 1 secondi’m thinking you dirty rotter and there’s that photo of him with nixon in it as his pupils are completely dilating he’s stoned off his head

41:09

41 minutes, 9 seconds[Laughter]

41:12

41 minutes, 12 secondsand the secret service giving him a gun and it is wild but i mean you know we we forgave him it’s like

41:21

41 minutes, 21 seconds[Laughter]

41:25

41 minutes, 25 secondscrazy oh beautiful beautiful so great definitely you definitely tried to bust us almost so

41:34

41 minutes, 34 secondshey listen listen you’d better get to your cake this is going to be this is going to be a wonderful cake i

41:43

41 minutes, 43 secondscan tell by having met the cook thank you thank you thank you so much

41:52

41 minutes, 52 secondsyeah well big thank you thank you man yeah same here and um thanks very much for doing the track

41:59

41 minutes, 59 secondsi look forward to you hearing the whole album and enjoy it and i think it is a bit dancey the album because the lord is sort of

42:07

42 minutes, 7 secondsmixed mixy and so great so thanks man on your birthday thank you so much thank see you love love you

42:16

42 minutes, 16 secondsman thank you love to you lots of love

42:20

42 minutes, 20 secondstake care see you all bye

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