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In May 1967, Paul Tennant and Dave Rhodes, aspiring songwriters from Liverpool, visited London and managed to meet Paul McCartney in Hyde Park. After asking for help from Paul, he gave them Terry Doran’s phone number, a friend from Liverpool who would soon become the managing director of Apple Music Ltd. when the company was formed in November 1967.

Terry Doran then invited Paul Tennant and Dave Rhodes to record some demos. Brian Epstein and John Lennon were impressed by the demos, and Brian suggested they form a group and call it “Focal Point.” They were then offered a publishing deal with Apple Music Ltd.

Back in Liverpool, they recruited three additional musicians, Tim Well, Dave Slater, and Ted Hesketh. They perfected their demos and signed with Deram Records, with whom they released their only single in May 1968. The single failed to chart, and Apple lost interest in them and didn’t invest much more in them anymore. Focal Point finally split up in the summer of 1969.


In 1960, I [Paul Tennant] began playing guitar seriously, having dabbled for a year or two. My school was very close to the old Casbah in Liverpool and my best friend at school was a guy called Dave Aspinall, brother of Neil. We would go to the Casbah and watch The Beatles at their birth. During the following years, I followed them around Liverpool at all the documented venues, learning how they could control an audience. They were quite phenomenal. Since then, I have seen many bands live: The Stones, The Who, The Move, you name it. I have seen them, but The Beatles were the best rock and roll band I have ever seen. Second to none.

From 1960 to 1966 I played around Liverpool in various bands, me going one way and The Beatles going another. I lost contact over the years with Dave Aspinall. I then met with Dave Rhodes in a club called the Labamba in Liverpool, and we quickly became friends. He was in a band called the Maracas, and I was with somebody else — whose name escapes me. We decided we should begin writing songs, which we did. The first efforts were pretty pathetic, but we kept on going, and in the end, we felt we had some acceptable offerings. He left his band, and I left mine, and we formed a band called Obsession. We played around Liverpool at most of the big venues. We were like most of the bands at that time. We played all the old classics with one or two of our original songs. The band did not last too long, as Dave and I spent most of our time writing and chasing women. We then formed another band called The Big Lox Blue Band, an ambitious effort really. We had a full brass section with keyboards, bass, two guitars and drums, and Dave and I. I spent some time at the disbanding of this band with a band called The Almost Blues, which was formed by a good friend of mine called Alan Peters, but I did not stay for long. Dave and I carried on writing. It got to the point where we needed to move on to the next stage, but we did not know what the next stage was. Where do you go with your songs? Studios and four-track machines in those days were out of our league.

It was then in the summer of 1967 — early May, to be exact that we decided to take a holiday in Torquay with a couple of days in London. We hired a car and set off for the big smoke. Purely by accident in the car on the way down the conversation got around to Paul McCartney and where he lived. There was an article in a magazine that showed pictures of stars and their houses, and there was Paul’s house with a lovely picture, saying it was around the corner from Lords. Well, as we were driving into London, we saw a sign that said “Lords Cricket Ground,” so off we went looking for Paul’s house. It took us about 2 minutes to find, there are not too many houses backing onto it. We knew which house Paul lived in due to a large amount of girls hanging about outside. So there we sat, looking and taking it all in. We had never seen this much grandeur. Then all of a sudden the gates opened and a Mini shoots out and away.

Without a second thought we were on his tail, and there in the back of the car was a large sheepdog, but we couldn’t see who was in the front seat. Now I was holding onto the Mini, thought lights, round corners I never let it out of my sight, and then before you could say Jack Robinson we were at Hyde Park. The Mini stopped and out stepped Paul — let the dog out and waved to the drive — Jane Asher and he was walking the dog. Well, Dave looked at me, and I looked at him, and we both looked at our other friend, Peter McKenna (a childhood friend of mine), and we all reached the same conclusion. We would follow him and tell him about our songs. It was just like that. We abandoned the car and went off in hot pursuit. We caught Paul and up we shouted to him and he turned around. We then told him our story– we were writing songs and didn’t know what to do with them. Could he help? Could he help? This is an understatement. He could have done anything at that time. The Beatles were like gods. After about 5 minutes of talking to each other, he said to us, “I could get you a recording contract just like that,” and flicked his fingers, “But why should I?” It was then that he proved to be a human by planting a finger up his nostril. Dave laughed, and he laughed. Dave then said to him in answer to his question, “Because we are good. Our songs are good.” It was just like that. Paul then wrote down on a piece of paper a phone number and gave it to us. “Phone this guy and tell him I sent you,” said Paul, and he was then gone, carrying on walking the dog. The phone number was the number for Terry Doran.

To cut a long story short, we then drove to Torquay and spent a week in the sun, met some girls, and had a ball, but we did not have the bottle to make the phone call. Eventually, when we got back to Liverpool, Dave and I phoned Terry. Terry listened and told us Paul had told him we were going to ring and when could we go down to London. We arranged to meet him in a couple of days.

The address was Curzon Street. Dave, Peter, and I then went down on the overnight bus from Liverpool and went to the address. Our first meeting with Terry Doran was amazing, really. The office of Apple was tiny, just one room. On the door there was a cardboard notice just with the word “Apple.” They were in the same building as Radio Luxembourg. Dratleaf and Abigail Publishing occupied their next-door offices. They both handled the Bee Gees and The Cream. Terry was the original hippy with a haircut like Bob Dylan, and he had on a lime green suit. We were quickly put at ease and surprised to learn he was a Liverpudlian just like us. We told him the story, and he said, “Let’s hear what you have written.” Out came the guitars and we sang four of our best songs to him, just like that. He asked us to play them again, and we did. He said he liked our songs and would like to get an acetate done of them.

He picked up the phone and phoned a small studio on Denmark Street called Central Sound. We then went for some lunch and then jumped into a taxi and went along to the studio. Dave and I put down four songs all in one take, just two guitars and both of us singing. The results were excellent, and we were really surprised. Terry was over the moon, saying how he liked our stuff. We went out for dinner to Flannagan’s, a restaurant on Baker Street, and then back to Terry’s house in Esher. This was quite amazing, really. On our drive back, he told us about Apple and how The Beatles were forming this company, and it was going to change the world. Terry was in charge. We were the first artists he had, and he was very excited. Back at Terry’s house, which was owned by John Lennon, we sat and had some drinks, and then Terry started smoking a joint. This was all new to us, but we took to it like a duck to water. Terry then got on the phone and started raving on about our songs to whoever was on the other end of the line. He was really going over the top. After he hung up, he said he was going out and taking the songs around to John’s house for his opinion. “Make yourself at home. I’ll be back later. Do whatever you want, drinks are over there.” Well, we got as high as a kite and sat back listening to Bob Dylan’s Blonde on Blonde album, and before you knew it Terry was back. “John loves your songs. He is absolutely going mad over them,” said Terry. We were again gob-smacked. He was the greatest songwriter in the world, and he was saying he liked our songs and was raving over them! “He wants me to play them to Brian.”

It was now about midnight and Terry then got on the phone to Brian Epstein. We could hear him telling the story to Brian, about the songs and what John had said. “Brian wants to hear them now,” said Terry. With that, he was gone at that late hour. Well, we all crashed and were awoken in the morning with Terry Doran making tea. He was in a pillar-box red suit and again was going on about Brian’s reaction. “Brian agrees with John, your songs are fantastic; he loves the one called ‘Miss Sinclair’s Courtship.’ John likes the one called ‘Except Me’.” Again to cut a long story short we were then driven to Euston Station, this time Terry was driving a black Mini. We later found out it belonged to George Harrison. It had blacked-out windows. It was really the ultimate poseur’s car. He gave us a ten-pound note – a lot of money then and told us to phone him. We got back to Liverpool and told the story to everybody. Ultimately we were now in with the biggest clan and clique since Frank Sinatra’s Rat Pack. Terry phoned and told us he had spoken to Brian and John and they wanted to sign us to a five-year publishing deal with Apple Publishing. Brian also suggested that we should form a band. He wanted to call us Focal Point. At that point, Focal Point was born, named by Brian Epstein, and Terry Doran suggested he manage us. More importantly, when were we going back down with more songs? Terry said not to bring any guitars as he would sort something out for us. Terry booked some more studio time, and we went down. Again the same scene, into a studio, back to Terry’s house, more conversations with The Beatles and Brian. We borrowed guitars from The Beatles for the session, quite amazing. This time, we stayed about a week, meeting loads of people who dropped into Terry’s house. These included Graham Nash, Mick Jagger, Jenny Boyd, Geroge Harrison, Mal Evans, Pete Shotton, and John Lennon himself. It was pretty amazing, really. I told John and Goerge how I used to follow them around Liverpool. We now firmly had our feet under the table.

Then, out of the blue, Brian Epstein dies. We thought things would change, but nothing did. It was pretty bad, really, because Brian was beginning to take an interest in us in a big way, and he said he wanted to get us moving just like he did with The Beatles. We were just like “the boys” as he called The Beatles.

Apple moved to Baker Street, and the company really started to move. Dave and I signed long-term contracts and continued to look for musicians for our band. We continued going back and forth from Liverpool to London. The same each time we’d stay with Terry, get stoned, go out to dinner, out to the Speakeasy, meet people like Jonathan King, The Hollies, Marty Feldman, The Animals, Alan Price, Stevie Windwood, Keith Moon, The Walker Brothers. Apple sent us to Vidal Sasson for hair styling and then down the Kings Road to a shop called Dandy Fashion — where the Beatles bought all their clothes. We were now like two little pop stars, and when we got back to Liverpool, it showed. We found the guys we wanted in our band. Dave Slater — bass played with a band called The Top, Tim Well – keyboard – from the same band, and Ted Hesketh – drums from Dave’s old band, The Maracas. After they heard our story, they were all in, and quickly, we were off to London. The other guys all signed deals with Apple. Terry was working on getting us a recording contract.

We were then introduced to Lionel Morton, who was with The Four Pennies. He had been employed by Terry as a producer at Apple. Focal Point then spent several months recording at the studios in Apple with Lionel Morton recording us. Terry agreed that he and Lionel would manage us jointly as he was getting involved with another band that had arrived on the scene, Grapefruit.

We would spend hours into the night putting down all our songs, and sometimes, late at night, Terry would come back with John Lennon. Well, we would give him some sick, some real Liverpool banter. John would love this. He also always showed a liking for our music. He loved some of the songs Dave and I had written. The band moved to London and Apple got us a house in Highbury. We were recording every day. Whenever we needed equipment, we would take a taxi over to Abbey Road and borrow anything from The Beatles. They had a room in Abbey Road where they would keep everything and guess who was given the key? We would help ourselves — there are some stories here which I will leave for another time. Terry secured us contracts with MGM, Liberty, EMI, and Deram. We had the choice as to whom we would sign with. In the end, we decided on Deram, mainly because Wayne Bickerton — the chosen producer was Liverpudlian. A stupid decision, really. We could have had Terry Melcher or Glyn John producing. No disrespect to Wayne, whom I see for lunch about once or twice a year. We were also at this time working with Jackie Lomax, as a backing band for him, rehearsing at Apple for an album Jackie was making. We became good friends and did the album at — though the memory is a bit smoky — either Trident or Olympic Studios. We had Klaus Vormann on bass, with me and Jackie on guitar, Tim on keyboards, and Ted on bass. Glyn John was producing. We got to meet with so many people.

We could however see at this time the beginning of the end of Apple — in the format, it had become. Terry was becoming more distant, spending more time with Grapefruit.

We recorded our single for Deram. Four tracks were recorded, “Never Never, “Girl on a Corner,” “Love You Forever,” and “Sycamore Sid.” The one we all wanted out as a single was “Never Never,” but the really tacky Decca committee decided on the safe bet. “Never Never” was a really psychedelic piece of music with a Boeing 747 taking off at the beginning and end of this fantastic song. Brian Epstein always wanted us to record “Miss Sinclair’s Courtship”, but we never did. I do know Alan Price recorded it and at the last minute decided to do “Simon Smith and His Amazing Dancing Bear”.

Apple and Decca put on a fantastic launch party in the West End. It was attended by hundreds of people, with us playing the four songs. Apple kitted the band out with all new clothes and new equipment courtesy of Vox. We were bitterly disappointed that Terry Doran — who was there right at the beginning never made the reception. Lionel attended with his wife, Julie Foster, who was making quite a name for herself in the movies. Half a Sixpence with Tommy Steele and Alfie with Michael Caine. We felt like stars that night, with a million cameras pointed at us. We then signed a management deal with NEMS, moved to another house in East Dulwich, and carried on recording at Apple. We then could see the bubble definitely beginning to burst. Mike Berry had been brought into Apple and Jack Oliver was making himself seen, and Terry was spending less and less time with us. We would see John Lennon and George from time to time at the Baker STreet offices, also Paul and Ringo, but things were different.

Focal Point then went on a tour up north playing with such people as Stevie Windwood, Peter Frampton, and the New Yardbirds – to become Led Zepplin, Alan Price, and Chris Farlowe.

The band then decided they had had enough of London, the record was not a success. It sold reasonably well but not what we expected. On June 29, 1968, I remember the date because it is my birthday, we decided we would not go back to London until they spent more time with us. Our road manager, a guy called Brian Rooney, phoned Paul McCartney up and was told it best to stay away for a time, as there were problems. This we did. We took Paul at his word and the rest as they say…

The band split up in the summer of 1969. We had been there and done it, seen it, bought the T-shirt, and more. I am in business with Tim and Dave Slater with Focal Point Music Publishing. We have an extensive catalog with several other writers signed, and we hope to go on from here. Dave Rhodes is a lecturer in mental nursing up North ni Morpeth. Ted Hesketh disappeared after a spell with the Merseybeats. He had never been seen since. Our road manager, Brian Rooney, went with Ringo for a while and then with Tina Turner and then Donna Summer, but I have not seen him for a long time.

You will appreciate there are lots of things that I have had to leave out due to time and space and I feel our story could be a small book in its own right. I have seen Terry Doran on several occasions, just to have a pint with him and talk about old times. In the 80s when he was working as George Harrison’s PA, I did go and stay at Friar Park for a few days with Terry and met George once again. I have not seen Lionel Morton since 1987. That is the true — condensed version of Focal Point.

Paul Tennant – From Beatles Unlimited Magazine, January/February 2007 – Transcripted in Meet the Beatles for Real: Focal Point

We were playing there one night with my band, The Top. Tim Wells and I were approached by these two guys [Paul Tennant and Dave Rhodes] in the interval. They looked the part. It was 1967. One of them had a kaftkan on!  We thought that this was really weird. We’d heard of flower power stuff and all that but it hadn’t reached Liverpool at the time. We were very much a Motown type band. They introduced themselves. They said they had “a song writing deal with Apple. Brian Epstein wants us to form a band and call it Focal Point. We’d like you to play with us.” And so I thought about it for about two seconds! I said “Yes, ok we’ll do that.” Ted Hesketh joined us later from The Maracas, fantastic drummer. Dave was rhythm guitar, Paul was lead, me on bass and Tim on keyboards.

Dave Slater – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

[Focal Point was invited by Terry Doran at John Lennon’s house at Weybridge, Surrey, while John was out of the country] “Our drummer managed to get in the house within seconds! When we got in there it was like an Aladdin’s Cave. There was film of the Beatles, clips that we didn’t know then would form part of the “Magical Mystery Tour” film. Mick Jagger phoned up looking for John. Terry eventually arrived there later that evening and apologised profusely. We spent the night there listening to all this music. “Sgt Pepper” was out then and we were listening to different versions with different track formations. My first impressions of Terry was this guy with a Bob Dylan hair cut and a lime green suit. Very bouncy, bubbly.

Dave Slater – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

All I remember of Apple was white leather everywhere. Plush carpets, a very luxurious place. It appeared that money was no obstacle. Suddenly everything was there. It must have cost a fortune. You didn’t have to worry about money, it just appeared. You thought it would last forever but naturally it didn’t.

Dave Slater – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

We’d spend from midday to the early hours of the morning, at the top of the place at Baker Street, putting down the material that Dave and Paul had written. At that point, Apple had only four songs from them acoustic versions such as “Tales from the GPO Files”, “Girl on the Corner” and “Miss Sinclair”. So we recorded versions as a band. That was the life. People would just walk in and out; the Beatles of course, Mick Jagger. I remember someone saying one evening, “Lennon’s outside.” So we went to the window and looked down into the street below. It was a psychedelic Mini. Yoko and John had just turned up. Paul shouted in a thick Liverpudlian accent “Hey John!” putting it on a bit. Also in the building was Robert Stigwood’s organisation. They had a company called Dratleaf and the Bee Gees and Cream were on it. We’d finish late and go out to one of the local clubs where all the stars hung out. It was a great scene.”

Lionel Morton – Producer of Focal Point – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

Terry Doran said, “Yes, if [The Beatles are not using their equipment]. Use it.” Paul tells that story about swapping over the strings, from a left hander to a right hander, and suddenly McCartney wants it back again. It was an Epiphone. They were frantically changing the strings back like it had never been missing!

Dave Slater – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

Terry said there are four major companies wanting to sign you up – Decca, MGM, Pye and Liberty. Decca’s subsidiary was Deram which at the time was a fairly new label. Out of them all it was probably the best deal of the lot. So Apple left it to us to decide and so we signed to Decca. We recorded for two days at Decca’s No.2 studios which the Rolling Stones were using regularly then. The tracks were “Sycamore Sid”, “Love You Forever”, “Girl On The Corner” and “Never Never”.

Dave Slater – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

If Epstein was alive it may have been different – I don’t know. That probably was an early sign. Had he survived he would have pushed us more. Instead, Apple started to loose interest and we needed someone as an Agency to get us the gigs. And to be quite honest with you we were having a good time anyway. The record was out. We were at Apple everyday, bumping into people. We met them all. It was a good time. We didn’t feel that we needed to do anything else. It would just take care of itself. We would play as and when the time came. But it never came.

Dave Slater – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

I remember one day, we were down in the office area and I was talking to one of the heads of department. He got a phone call, put the phone down and shouted to people “Quick, look busy, the boss is on his way.” I was thinking “Who’s the boss?” Next minute Paul McCartney walks in behind us. I remember Paul’s face – he that stern look on his face. At that time he wasn’t happy at the way Apple was being run, or not run. It was haemorrhaging money and he was on to it, I think. He was in dispute and wanted Eastman to manage their affairs as he was with Linda and the other three wanted Alan Klein. That didn’t help our situation or anybody’s at Apple. They were imploding and we were going under with them. We would have gone under anyway but other acts also suffered as a result. It wasn’t an easy time.

Dave Slater – From Focal Point – First Bite of the Apple   – The Strange Brew

Paul lends a hand

Just a chance meeting with Paul McCartney of the Beatles in Hyde Park, of all unexpected places, has meant a nightly happy Christmas for Liverpool lads, Paul Tennant and his pal, Dave Rhodes.

After playing in various rhythm groups around Merseyside, the two boys last year decided to go out on their own, singing the songs they wrote themselves.

Let Paul Tennant, who lives at 152 Queens Drive, West Derby, take up the story from there.

“After slogging away for months without much success, we went to London, with our sights set on breaking into Tin Pan Alley and its music publishers. But still success kept dodging us. Then one day in Hyde Park, we met Paul McCartney. We introduced ourselves to him and told him what we had been doing and were trying to do. He was interested and arranged for us to meet a director of Apple Publishing Company, which, as you know, is one of the latest business interests of the Beatles. The director we met from this introduction turned out to be a Liverpool man, too. He liked some of our songs and the outcome was that we signed a five-year contract for Apple to publish our work. But that isn’t the end of the story. Dave Rhodes and I decided to form a group of our own and picked some more Liverpool lads to join us. After a few auditions in London, a major recording company has now offered us a five-year contract which we are about to sign. What a wonderful Christmas present for us!”

From Liverpool Echo – December 23, 1967
From Liverpool Echo – December 23, 1967

The big break

BELIEVE IT or not – but I’m assured that it’s true – the group above, known as Focal Point, actually met Paul McCartney while he was exercising his dog in the park. They persuaded him to listen to them – and the result was a contract with Apple and a new disc, titled “Love You Forever”. Quite a break for the four Liverpudlians and one Reading man who make up the group.


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